GENERAL INFO ABOUT BELETH'S GENERAL INSTANCE

[heroBD 107]

Hello . We made a test today to check if we can reach beleth , just with a single 8 people's party.
Sadly we reached only the part of naia's spores before summoning epidos . We actually trying 3 times to summon epidos and failed.
The guides that i find online has many misleading information ......(on some articles it says you need 45people to enter beleth, on others it says you need 27 to summon epidos , on others it says that if a person gets dc , the whole party gets dc....which isnt true...) ... I would like to ask if you can tell us @emca or @jorn , the circumstances you need for 3 things.......
1st how many people we need to enter beleth.
2nd how many people we need to summon epidos
3rd and harder ,around how many specific element naia's spores we need to summon a specific elemental epidos(if we have in mind that we only hit 1 kind of element only)

i m asking because you might already have made modifications like zaken for example... or the people who you took files from has made modifications , and with current population and motivation of people in the server , it is really actually imposible to find 5 partys who have the experience, will, and time to do that.

Edited November 8, 2018 by heroBD

[k0ntra 11]

46 minutes ago, heroBD said:

1st how many people we need to enter beleth.
2nd how many people we need to summon epidos
3rd and harder ,around how many specific element naia's spores we need to summon a specific elemental epidos(if we have in mind that we only hit 1 kind of element only)

On a simular note, if @Emca cannot find the information, I had an idea about a side-way.

1. Find the ID of the Teleportation cubic, spawn it in GM Room and test.

2. @heroBD did not mention that we aren't even sure that epidos needs a specific number of ppl to spawn. The info from internet may be misleading. It may not even have this requirement.

3.Here would be useful to give us as much information as you can about the code. In the internet it says that we need to kill 1 element to spawn the same elemental epidos. 

For example: We want to spawn fire epidos, so we have to kill Naia Spores which look like salamanders. However it is easier said than done since the other elements attack our support so we have to hit or even kill atleast a portion of them and run around with the rest.

It would really help if you tell us how much does the chance decrease to spawn fire epidos if we kill 1 or 2 Water element Naia Spores. According to a website we found, the chance decreases dramatically if we kill Water (opposite element) and not so much if we kill Earth,Wind(from my example). Using the same example I want to ask is it possible to kill the wind earth spores and compensate the score even continue to increase the chance of spawning the Fire boss. If we kill wind earth who attack support then kill fire and we arent moving with the score, its a lost cause.

To spawn 1 epidos we have 30 minutes, does the score reset afterwards? 

I hope the staff can answer our questions because killing this raid is the spark that everyone has in their eyes 🤗

[stress_kh92 7]

we tryed also to kill beleth. epidos was spawned from 2nd try. active 10 ppl with 2 partys to get full buff(sk/cat/dod/judi/2destros/bp/ee/se/pp/wc/bd/sws(x2 for both pt)/ol) for entrance to beleth we had cc with 16-18 chars

Edited November 9, 2018 by stress_kh92

[Eldax 112]

@stress_kh92 And where u exacly failed it?

[pvpzverek1 21]

16 minutes ago, Eldax said:

@stress_kh92 And where u exacly failed it?

The first time Lee Jenkins was

 

 

 

The second time the script was buggy*

*because of silence the monster did not explode and became invulnerable

[pvpzverek1 21]

perhaps the ability to self-destruct has gone into long reuse
 

[heroBD 107]

But both occasions it is before the epidos...... The parts where instance becomes for 1-1 parties........

[pvpzverek1 21]

17 minutes ago, heroBD said:

But both occasions it is before the epidos...... The parts where instance becomes for 1-1 parties........

it was late I wanted to sleep.. the first video where I was on PP

[pvpzverek1 21]

😊

[pvpzverek1 21]

maybe not. I don't remember.

[k0ntra 11]

In @pvpzverek1' s videos they did not reach the naia spores, which means they did not summon epidos. If @stress_kh92 summoned it, I'd gladly hear which types of spores did you kill and how many.

[hornakias 9]

9 hours ago, k0ntra said:

In @pvpzverek1' s videos they did not reach the naia spores, which means they did not summon epidos. If @stress_kh92 summoned it, I'd gladly hear which types of spores did you kill and how many.

is this my friend?

[Jorn 120]

Hey guys, i will have a look at epidos AI, and will share my findings with you.

[hornakias 9]

1 hour ago, Jorn said:

Hey guys, i will have a look at epidos AI, and will share my findings with you.

thank you,most of us have never killed beleth and its going to be a challenge before this server goes to hi5

[pvpzverek1 21]

6 hours ago, Jorn said:

Hey guys, i will have a look at epidos AI, and will share my findings with you.

 still check monster Beleth's Slave and his active skills such as Self-Destruct

 

 

http://l2kc.ru/npc/18490

[k0ntra 11]

@pvpzverek1 can you also please share some russian websites with Beleth instance info? That would be helpful! Thanks

[pvpzverek1 21]

7 hours ago, k0ntra said:

@pvpzverek1 can you also please share some russian websites with Beleth instance info? That would be helpful! Thanks

https://forums.goha.ru/showthread_0_0_t554893

[stress_kh92 7]

On 11/9/2018 at 6:50 PM, Eldax said:

@stress_kh92 And where u exacly failed it?

we make wrong setup for farm. destro cant stay upon limit debuff. we were ineside beleth instance and try RB

[stress_kh92 7]

as for index i dont shure. firs try spores were spawned we mostly thout about tactic (how to farm neded spors faster) and time was ower. after on 2nd rabbit spawn we make needed index and spawn rb.

[k0ntra 11]

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[Jorn 120]

20 hours ago, k0ntra said:

I know, i know ... but AI for Epidos is quite complicated.

[Jorn 120]

On 11/8/2018 at 4:23 PM, heroBD said:

3rd and harder ,around how many specific element naia's spores we need to summon a specific elemental epidos(if we have in mind that we only hit 1 kind of element only)

So, it seems to me from the AI, that fastest way is to pick ONE element and kill it, you need 120 points. There are two counters - for Fire / Water elements and Wind / Earth elements.

• if you choose, for example, to kill Fire, you'll be increasing your fire / water counter by 2 by each kill
  • if you make mistake and kill Water element, your counter will decrease by 2
  • it will also contribute to wind / earth element count - depending on what you're killing - decreasing the earth / wind counter by 1
  • once you reach 120 points (60 kills), all elements should despawn and epidos of opposite element should spawn (in our example, it would be water)
  • there is also reset counter - if it reaches 600 points, it seems that it will reset whole procedure
    • this counter is increased by each element despawn (not kill, but just despawn)
  • so it looks like you have to be quick in killing elements to not reach the 600 points in the despawn counter

On 11/8/2018 at 4:23 PM, heroBD said:

1st how many people we need to enter beleth.

2nd how many people we need to summon epidos

There seems to be no party / people counter in the AI.

[k0ntra 11]

@Jorn Do the elements despawn automatically after a certain period of time if noone hits them? The guys tried to hit some but they despawned before they could finish them, which tells me after u start hitting 1 element you also have a certain period of time (2-3 seconds?) to kill it otherwise it despawns.

Which means: They despawn when: 1. Noone hits them for a certain period of time.

                                                            2. When you start hitting them but you dont have the dmg to kill them in time.

Am I wrong ?

[Jorn 120]

I'll check that and get back to you as soon as possible.