claw 12 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) http://www.linedia.ru/wiki/Anakim_(Raid_Boss) - expectationhttp://dropmefiles.com/4RcYW - reality as you can see there is no drop transform sealbook  Edited January 15, 2018 by claw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
klever 16 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) https://dropspoil.l2shrine.com/npc/25286 in herbs - 1% and here -Â http://lineage.pmfun.com/item/10296/transform-sealbook--anakim.html 5% Edited January 15, 2018 by klever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eldax 112 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 I Killed over 100 Gordons with 80 lvl tyrant and didnt drop transform also. I doubt that any1 ever dropped it in those 16 months of serwer online. Just give up and forget about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pvpzverek1 21 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Eldax said: I Killed over 100 Gordons with 80 lvl tyrant and didnt drop transform also. I doubt that any1 ever dropped it in those 16 months of serwer online. Just give up and forget about it. I saw in Giran to transform Gordon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eldax 112 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, pvpzverek1 said: I saw in Giran to transform Gordon Good atleast I havent seen it when I was still playing. I would be pissed off af, that some random who killed single Gordon got it and I didnt after 100+, when i was grinding him for months only bcuz transform. Now it totally doesnt matter, I guess. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TzaR 19 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 some guy from Darkness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claw 12 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 We're still waiting for GM response and main questions is: where is transform in drop list(maybe you even disabled it and didnt said a word?) and what about chance? is should be 5% for sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emca 306 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 It's in ex_item_drop_list (which is usually used for herbs and isn't affected by drop rate) so it doesn't show in drop/spoil in game. The chance is 1 % and I'm almost sure it's correct (it's 1 % in both leaked Gracia Final and leaked Freya and I really doubt NCsoft changed it 1 % GF -> 5 % GE -> 1 % Freya). EDIT: It's also 1 % in leaked Glory Days scripts so I think it was 1 % all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicopool 2 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Explain what we are focused on? on empty words? (if you look at your herb leaf of the tiad, it says that 2 books drop - Fighter will and Archer will, but in fact drops 4 books Fighter will, Archer will, magik will and rune elemental) and in the game they are described already as a normal drop (not herbs). Just do not want to be a fool who believed in simple words and closed his eyes to some of the facts described above. I testified that I gave a simple example of the fact that your informer does not correspond to the chronicles of the GE and does not match the game droppings at the moment. On Tiad, there are no problems in the game, everything drops right, I would like to see a drop of transformations. (Zaken, Anakim, Benom, Gordon, Ranku, Demon Prince, Kechi). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eldax 112 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 I also 'd like ask why transform drop rate isnt multipled by serwer rates? Why its still 1% instead of 2.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emca 306 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ok, some explanation...  Anakim: Leaked Gracia Final - Anakim normal grouped drop aka "additional_make_multi_list" - this gets multiplied by drop rate: additional_make_multi_list={{{{[basalt_battlehammer];1;1;0.5879};{[imperial_staff];1;1;0.5879};{[dragon_hunter_axe];1;1;0.5879};{[arcana_mace];1;1;0.5879};{[basalt_battlehammer_head];16;48;8.3295};{[piece_of_imperial_staff];11;31;12.961};{[dragon_hunter_axe_blade];6;18;23.0489};{[arcana_mace_head];3;7;53.309}};53.4503};{{{[angel_slayer];1;1;4.9371};{[angel_slayer_blade];12;36;95.0629}};38.1885};{{{[scrl_of_ench_wp_s];1;1;8.9552};{[scrl_of_ench_am_s];1;1;89.5522};{[blessed_scrl_of_ench_wp_s];1;1;1.4926}};77.799}} Leaked Gracia Final - Anakim special drop (herbs, transforms, ...) aka "ex_item_drop_list" - this doesn't get multiplied by drop rate because it's mainly used for herbs: ex_item_drop_list={{{{[sb_transform_anakim];1;1;100}};1}} Leaked Freya - Anakim normal grouped drop: additional_make_multi_list={{{{[basalt_battlehammer];1;1;0.5879};{[imperial_staff];1;1;0.5879};{[dragon_hunter_axe];1;1;0.5879};{[arcana_mace];1;1;0.5879};{[basalt_battlehammer_head];16;48;8.3295};{[piece_of_imperial_staff];11;31;12.961};{[dragon_hunter_axe_blade];6;18;23.0489};{[arcana_mace_head];3;7;53.309}};53.4503};{{{[angel_slayer];1;1;4.9371};{[angel_slayer_blade];12;36;95.0629}};38.1885};{{{[scrl_of_ench_wp_s];1;1;8.9552};{[scrl_of_ench_am_s];1;1;89.5522};{[blessed_scrl_of_ench_wp_s];1;1;1.4926}};77.799}} Leaked Freya - Anakim special drop: ex_item_drop_list={{{{[sb_transform_anakim];1;1;100}};1}} e.g. Anakim has the same drops in both Gracia Final and Freya - so it's correct  Tiat: Leaked Gracia Final - Tiat normal non-grouped drop: additional_make_list={{[sealed_holly_sprit's_cloak];1;1;20};{[sb_protection_of_elemental];1;1;30};{[sb_fighter_will];1;1;30};{[sb_archer_will];1;1;30};{[sb_magicians_will1];1;1;30}} Leaked Gracia Final - Tiat normal grouped drop: additional_make_multi_list={{{{[vesper_cutter];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_slasher];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_burster];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_shaper];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_fighter];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_stormer];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_avenger];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_retributer];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_caster];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_thrower];1;1;9.09};{[vesper_singer];1;1;9.10}};41.4};{{{[icarus_sowsword];1;1;11.2};{[icarus_disperser];1;1;11.1};{[icarus_spirits];1;1;11.1};{[icarus_heavy_arms];1;1;11.1};{[icarus_trident];1;1;11.1};{[icarus_chopper];1;1;11.1};{[icarus_knuckle];1;1;11.1};{[icarus_wand];1;1;11.1};{[icarus_accipiter];1;1;11.1}};58.6}} Leaked Gracia Final - Tiat special drop: ex_item_drop_list={} Leaked Freya - Tiat normal non-grouped drop: additional_make_list={{[sealed_holly_sprit's_cloak];1;1;20};{[sb_protection_of_elemental];1;1;40};{[sb_fighter_will];1;1;40}} Leaked Freya - Tiat normal grouped drop: additional_make_multi_list={{{{[vesper_cutter];1;1;3.77};{[vesper_slasher];1;1;3.76};{[vesper_burster];1;1;3.76};{[vesper_shaper];1;1;3.77};{[vesper_fighter];1;1;3.77};{[vesper_stormer];1;1;3.76};{[vesper_avenger];1;1;3.77};{[vesper_retributer];1;1;3.76};{[vesper_caster];1;1;3.76};{[vesper_thrower];1;1;3.76};{[vesper_singer];1;1;3.76};{[icarus_sowsword];1;1;6.52};{[icarus_disperser];1;1;6.51};{[icarus_spirits];1;1;6.51};{[icarus_heavy_arms];1;1;6.51};{[icarus_trident];1;1;6.51};{[icarus_chopper];1;1;6.51};{[icarus_knuckle];1;1;6.51};{[icarus_wand];1;1;6.51};{[icarus_accipiter];1;1;6.51}};100.0}} Leaked Freya - Tiat special drop: ex_item_drop_list={{{{[sb_archer_will];1;1;50};{[sb_magicians_will1];1;1;50}};100.0}} e.g. NCsoft moved Archer's Will and Magician's Will from normal drop to special drop and changed the chances between Gracia Final and Freya - and it was probably between Gracia Final and Epilogue (we're not sure here so we use Freya version of the drop that will eventually be correct when we update to Freya) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicopool 2 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well, like everything is clear here, it's hoped that special drop (transforms, ...) generally works. Although I see no reason why it is not listed on the drop list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emca 306 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, nicopool said: Well, like everything is clear here, it's hoped that special drop (transforms, ...) generally works. Although I see no reason why it is not listed on the drop list. It definitely works, because herbs work. It's not in drop list because this type of drop usually contains just herbs and we didn't want to spam all drop/spoil with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motanas 0 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) it maybe working but got 1 stupid question ... done the transform quest went to learn transformation ... got the onix beast ... learned .. BUt when to learn saber tooth tiger ... even if i got the seal book in inventory ... the transform was not listed ... char is lvl 56 ... missing smt ?  https://ibb.co/ctkwww  also another problem sumons if a sumon dies can't sumon it again for another hour and only clan leader enable on clan wh ... even if u got full rights Edited January 29, 2018 by motanas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eldax 112 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, motanas said: only clan leader enable on clan wh ... even if u got full rights Only CL can withdraw things, and its normal, rights are only to be able to see what's inside. Â 1 hour ago, motanas said: if a sumon dies can't sumon it again for another hour I guess u're speaking about summons which u can summon since 20th lvl (boxer & mirage) merrow and seraphim should have few seconds cd. and i also think its how it should work. About ur transorm i think ur lvl is too low. Quote from some l2 forum: " okay man, i found 2 guys transformed in Saber tooth tiger, and they told me that the required lvl is 70! so is the same npc as always, u were right man. thx 4 all 2 all " link to full: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=188733 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TzaR 19 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, motanas said: it maybe working but got 1 stupid question ... done the transform quest went to learn transformation ... got the onix beast ... learned .. BUt when to learn saber tooth tiger ... even if i got the seal book in inventory ... the transform was not listed ... char is lvl 56 ... missing smt ?  https://ibb.co/ctkwww  need more lvl 60/70+++ PS did not see post from Cause Edited January 29, 2018 by TzaR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motanas 0 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 seems to be some lvl as they say in that forum min lvl is 70. Ok there is no lvl request specified on the scroll thou. Ty 4 response! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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