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  3. New server idea

    in Community Suggestions

    Posted

    53 minutes ago, Antistyle said:

    well,updates are "supposed" to be done every few months because of the way the game is atm,everybody knows a way to stack gear quickly(1 month or so)or slowly(3-4 months maybe?)especially on early chronicles such as interlude and staying on same level for long is "demotivating",since u dont see your char changing much.
    the 1 year cycle sounds perfect to be honest,especially if there's updates in the meanwhile to keep people interested and attracted to the server.

    I Also agree with Cyka,the idea of reward from GvG etc triggers the competitive side of players which is most important into keeping them into the server.

    About the presales,i've seen it in couple of servers and it worked rly well for the servers and the rushers ofc.gm shop with max B gear on GF,nothing special but rly big boost in the begining,xp boosts and BSS/SSS.

    Updates should have 2 or 3 months cycle. imho 2 months is more then enough to get geared on GF if people know how to play (especially on 10x rates).

    GvG i am not familiar with, this is something we need to help with.

    I am hesitant to put full items into donate, i'd rather have premium with increased exp/sp/adena. And then marks for class transfers, buyable nobless after 2nd TW.

    Also to make it more interesting, i'd go for short oly period (two weeks, or even one).

  4. New server idea

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, claw said:

    In my opinion the best feature can exist is "no features", but i've an idea that can help to build right vector in promoting and monetizing the whole thing called l2shrine.

    My idea is all about competitive l2, lets call it 
    https://imgflip.com/i/28lyib

    There is a thing in dota2 called "Compendium" which is made for raise tournaments prizepool and it can be partially implemented in premium account.

    You can made server scripted from beginning, smth like 3-4 month each chronicle with GvG tournament in the middle and final one which can be translated on twitch and promote next update. This scenario keeps server competitive and attract active players.

    P.S. Organization of tournaments plays a key role that requires hard work on it, and i've only once saw it was done on proper level on ruoff.

    Could you please explain in more detail how the "Compendium" works?

    GvG tournament - should this be something like best parties from clans fight each other? And best party wins some prize pool?

  5. New server idea

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    Posted

    I've just had a chat with @Emca - only reasonable upgrade path is GF->Freya. IL never leaked to public .. and creating IL by "downgrading" GF is nearly impossible due to missing data. AdvExt IL is built on top of C4 thus it is not real IL. We have real Freya data, which means we can have quite accurate extender.

    Can you share your opinions on the length of wipe cycle? Why (not) 1/2 year, 1 year, etc?

    Also wanted to ask if you have any experience with "pre-sale" like premiums, nick reservation, etc? Were there any servers that used that?

     

     

  6. New server idea

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    @claw you're right, promotion is very difficult to do, plus, i think that every launch would have to be somewhat special (feature-wise), because nobody wants to play again and again with same setup, features ... or am i wrong?

    @heroBD

    1. yes, you're right with this one, but i wouldn't use word "destruction", it's just the normal life cycle of almost every server.
    2. doing an update is a difficult thing, we only have experience with GF->GE, also i am not sure if there's any usable l2off leaked IL server and if @Emca would have time to make it work (most importantly fix bugs). Maybe it would be easier for us to do GF(->GE)>Freya, because we already have some things done in Freya extender, but this is something Emca has to confirm. But i understand your point in need of the update to keep the community alive.
    3. same as #2
    4. This is very difficult topic to solve - the idea of 1+1 is something that is on official server (innova). I liked about it that i needed to always look for parties, however if my clan was offline and i wasn't able to find any party, i couldn't do anything by myself. 2+1 at least guarantees you can somewhat solo with DC and BD for example. I am all for 1+1, but we'd need at least 1000+ online for that limitation.
    5. ok
    6. I am afraid that premiums wouldn't be sufficient to keep the server running, that's why we are thinking about in game tradeable currency. It's not like we want to make donate, earn $$$ and go to Bora Bora :D. Goal is to make enough money to have advertising for whole time period of server run. Money for the server itself (we could eventually buy new server if there is enough money? @Emca).  We will surely send email about new server to everyone. I like the idea of a pre-sale or how to call it - we could offer couple of services for these kind of donators (like different name color, premium for a month for free, hat, special group on forums, etc).

  7. New server idea

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    Posted

    Hi @Yooyoo,

    we've already discussed this few times with @Emca. We would like to open new server, and if we do it, it will have totally different setup than on Shrine (so it does not compete with Shrine). We are thinking about regular wipe policy (1/2 year or 1 year and then wipe + new start). Opening someday in autumn.

    Main problem (apart from having free time to develop & setup everything) right now is finances, we will need at least 2000$ USD to cover the server machine expenses for 1/2 year. Shutting down Shrine and using it's hardware or new is not an option.

    Now to your post.

    Chronicle: GF or GE - We haven't talked about this, GE is pretty stable and useful, but it seems like GF is more appealing to players.

    Rates: We haven't discussed this, my personal preference is to have something higher, 8x to 10x with 1/2 year wipe policy

    Box: Again, haven't discussed this, so again my personal preference: i would like to have option to have two dual boxes, three with Premium account

    Donation system: Special made currency bought using paypal / stripe / whatever. Used in GM Shop NPC to purchase premium, and stuff you wrote

    Bot hunter program: Could be rewarded, maybe some "bot hunter" currency used for special items (only available to bot hunters and nobody else), dunno.

     

    So, first thing first - how to get the money so the server can run at least 1/2 year? And more important question, does it even make sense to open server like this? How to make it unique so players come and stay?

  9. 3 ideas.

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    Posted

    On 11/28/2017 at 12:17 AM, Eldax said:

    I'd like to suggest 3 things. I know u Emca love custom settings on serwer so I'll sort them by scale from "Never, its too custom" to "one more idea like this and perma ban"

    1. Its add to Clanhalls Tp to town Gatekeeper.
    2. Make item augmentation from freya. I mean that u no longer will need to speak with npc to reopen window after every enchance, but u can just simply press "Continue", also amout of gemstones will be automated, so u just drag and drop in correct place and it automatically counts number u need ( same as life stones, even if its stackable item and u have 5k in inventory augmentation takes only 1 w/o typing and confirming that u put 1).
    3. Add Giran market npc which shows u list of all items what are already set to buy/sell, and after choosing item it shows u ppl who sell it and price.

    1. i consider this as a "quality of life" change, which would be nice to have

    2. as Emca said, difficult to add

    3. this is something like auction npc on official servers, right? it's nice feature, i like it, but there's no ui / support for in the current server / client, so basically same as 2

     

  19. Nový start?

    in Czech and Slovak / Česky a Slovensky

    Posted

    Ahoj,

    jeste sem nemluvil s Emcou a tohle pisu ciste za me osobne.

    Jsem pro zachovani Shrine (vcetne oprav), jak pises. A taky si myslim, ze uz jakesi jmeno mame, mame kvalitni antibot (neni neprustrelnej, ale odhali toho pomerne hodne), kvalitni extender, slusny hardware, par lidi o nas vi, a novy server by jich mohl par (stovek?) prilakat.

    Jenze je tu nekolik "ale"

    • Kam presunout aktualni Shrine? Nemame tolik hardwaru a ani prostredku na nakup noveho serveru
    • Marketing - jak docilit toho, aby se o tom, ze bude novy server, vedelo? Jak a cim prilakat lidi (tohle je asi to nejtezsi, obzvlast kdyz je tu jiny cesky server, ktery ma hodne velkou hracskou zakladnu)
    • Tim, ze nemame donate, nemame ani tolik prostredku, abychom udelali poradnou reklamu.
      • Pokud bychom donate zavest chteli (nejake doplnky napr.), je tu problem s tim, jak vest ucetnictvi (resp. ani me, ani Emci se do toho nechce)
      • Dalsi vec je, zda by lidi byli ochotni prispet i za predpokladu, ze je tu pomerne velka sance, ze se novy start nepovede. Donate je proste obrovsky zavazek vuci hracum, a pokud bychom je zklamali, nemuseli by uz prijit na zadny dalsi server, ktery treba jednou budem otevirat a v horsim pripade nam budou vyhrozovat a chtit penize vratit.
    • Spravne nastaveni serveru - v tomhle se hodne lisi muj pohled a pohled Emci - ja jsem pro vyssi rate, pro nejake custom upravy, Emca naopak je pro hardcore nastaveni a nema rada custom upravy.
      • Dale pak - delat upgrade chroniclu ci nikoliv? Pokud ano, po jake dobe?
      • atp.
    • Volny cas, ktereho je bohuzel min a min.
      • Urcite by nam pomohlo rozsirit GM/Admin tym, otazka je koho pribrat - musel by to byt nekdo, kdo na serveru aktivne nehraje, aby nevznikaly podezreni na GM support.
    • Novy web, control panel
      • Bohuzel nemam moznost se nekolik hodin denne venovat vyvoji noveho webu a control panelu, a pokud bychom zavedli nejaky donate, novy control panel je potreba.
      • Urcite je moznost nejakej CP zakokoupit, nicmene bez donate to asi nebude v nasich moznostech.

    Bylo by fajn, kdyby tu na tohle tema probehla nejaka diskuze s napady, jak vse vyresit tak, aby (pokud bude novy server) byl start uspesny a prilakal hodne lidi :).

     

  22. Drop / spoil databaze + nabijeni SC

    in Czech and Slovak / Česky a Slovensky

    Posted

    On 05/10/2017 at 9:37 AM, mirage said:

    Lepsi nez ta puvodni, ta mela zbytecne vysoke radky a to scrollovani na spoil, fuj!

    I tak mam par pripominek ;)

    Kdyz tam prijdu, chci hned zacit psat, ale ten box nema focus.

    Razeni by asi melo byt sdilene - kdyz si drop seradim podle sance, chci tak seradit i spoil.

    Kdyz je spoil/herbs prazdny, prislusna zalozka by tam ani nemusela byt.

    "Filter" je lepsi slovo pro filtrovani vysledku nez "Search"

    Co pridat razeni podle (Chance * (Min + Max))? Nemyslim pridat sloupec, jen moznost seradit to podle statisticke sance na 1 item. Nebo tak ten sloupec Chance radit rovnou.

     

    Upraveno, zatim krome toho posledniho bodu - kdyby neco nefungovalo, tak dej kdyztak vedet.

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  25. Drop / spoil databaze + nabijeni SC

    in Czech and Slovak / Česky a Slovensky

    Posted

    35 minutes ago, mirage said:

    Lepsi nez ta puvodni, ta mela zbytecne vysoke radky a to scrollovani na spoil, fuj!

    I tak mam par pripominek ;)

    Kdyz tam prijdu, chci hned zacit psat, ale ten box nema focus.

    Razeni by asi melo byt sdilene - kdyz si drop seradim podle sance, chci tak seradit i spoil.

    Kdyz je spoil/herbs prazdny, prislusna zalozka by tam ani nemusela byt.

    "Filter" je lepsi slovo pro filtrovani vysledku nez "Search"

    Co pridat razeni podle (Chance * (Min + Max))? Nemyslim pridat sloupec, jen moznost seradit to podle statisticke sance na 1 item. Nebo tak ten sloupec Chance radit rovnou.

     

    Jo klidne to tam zkusim zapracovat jakmile bude cas. Akorat si nejsem jistej ohledne toho razeni ostatnich tabulek - doufam ze tam bude mozny navazat nejaky eventy, kteryma to aktivuju u toho spoilu / herbu.

    Tohle je zatim jen rychlej prototyp, kterej jsem udelal za vecer, ale porad lepsi nez nic :). Postupne bych tam chtel dat dalsi veci / funkce a udelat tomu poradny design.