darkdewer 16 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) PM me if you are interested in ARCHER party later. All we need is maybe pp, oop warsmith, archers, maybe 1 ee and bishop Edited October 6, 2016 by darkdewer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EmperorDog 7 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 I'd be interested if the system "you put stuff in you get stuff back" ever worked out in a fair way, I always contribute 100% and get 10% back.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
opincar 0 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 I think i will join that clan,i plan to play as tank SK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilAgro 2 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 It only works for small clans that are based on real friendship. In bigger Clans it is better to help each other out individually and establish a raid point system to distribute raid drops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkdewer 16 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 hours ago, EmperorDog said: I'd be interested if the system "you put stuff in you get stuff back" ever worked out in a fair way, I always contribute 100% and get 10% back.. Then you were either in bad clans or did the typical l2 solo player mentality Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EmperorDog 7 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, darkdewer said: Then you were either in bad clans or did the typical l2 solo player mentality That model is just doomed to fail in bigger clans, its like communism, the leader doesnt notice its unfair cause he and his closest buddies are happy. It kills drive in people because everyone gets their turn to receive gear even if one guy donated 10x more materials. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkdewer 16 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 hours ago, MilAgro said: It only works for small clans that are based on real friendship. In bigger Clans it is better to help each other out individually and establish a raid point system to distribute raid drops. You are wrong. Why i would help some randoms if half of clan is people i know in real life. You can help in many ways not relating to mats, even more in this clan then others. Make buffer and make it so some people in clan can use it. Let bad solo classes leech. Farm ele stones, help in epics, make academy chars, be there for raids, farm stuff clan needs etc. In most clans you will put a full cp behind yours. I do not want cp system for one. So the only people that are ahead of you are people who are more reliable then you which again is all on you...if you didnt get it the primary factor is you and only you limit yourself. If someone proves himself more then me i will give him first aq zaken even if hes a mage main etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkdewer 16 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, EmperorDog said: That model is just doomed to fail in bigger clans, its like communism, the leader doesnt notice its unfair cause he and his closest buddies are happy. It kills drive in people because everyone gets their turn to receive gear even if one guy donated 10x more materials. Ive no friends here besides the ones that play my char. They have no main and never will. If you donate enough materials for drac bow and didnt get to craft one, also did other stuff for clan too then ill eat my words and make that guy leader. Problem is most guys will make 1 main nothing else, put 20 sops in cwh, rush 78 do nothing for clan then ask for tat jewel set. That guy gets zero and this is most l2 players mentality. Edited September 30, 2016 by darkdewer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkrinoa 1 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 hi there, Β we are 2 casual players from The netherlands, and we would like to join your clan. About myself, I play L2 since like uhm, 11years? Have been on official bartz in Gmen Elite (Dawn ally), and after that ive played thousands of privates. pvp servers and craft/low rate servers. also have been on the new l2 classics. In my old clan (gmen elite) we shared all the mats too, we had a big but tight group who helped eachother. (it was the time you could still drop from pvp). So nowadays im still playing, but casual, and my lil sis (15y) loves to play also. She has preety good sps experience, as thats her favo char. we also have been 2 good pkers on l2classic, so she can do pvp/pk as well. she will also make her own se. as for myself, i think ill play an active crafter, along with a PPΒ or OL or WC. perhaps an own spoiler, but i dont want to make too much alts, as i want to make a high lvl crafter.Β I cant tell you our ingame name yet, becuz we have had those names stolen before haha. but we will pm you right after launch to enter. if you agree on us entering ofcourse Β best regards, darkrinoa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkdewer 16 Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Sounds good mate just pm me on forum whenever when youve made your char Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkdewer 16 Posted October 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I am playing here but not enough to be a clan leader. I am arb/wc/bd/sws/cat and looking for archers to pt with at later levels, preferably sr/pr/he in that order. If you have a pp box its a big bonus. Pm on forum or in game "pinky "meow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devan 0 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Hi Β I am a returning L2 player and would like to join your clan Β Brgds. Devan Edited October 6, 2016 by Devan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilAgro 2 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Cool stuff that all here united in SeeD and run a successful Clan now Btw, this attitude is very good pinky. Thats exactly how I see it. On 30.9.2016 at 8:23 PM, darkdewer said: You are wrong. Why i would help some randoms if half of clan is people i know in real life. You can help in many ways not relating to mats, even more in this clan then others. Make buffer and make it so some people in clan can use it. Let bad solo classes leech. Farm ele stones, help in epics, make academy chars, be there for raids, farm stuff clan needs etc. In most clans you will put a full cp behind yours. I do not want cp system for one. So the only people that are ahead of you are people who are more reliable then you which again is all on you...if you didnt get it the primary factor is you and only you limit yourself. If someone proves himself more then me i will give him first aq zaken even if hes a mage main etc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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